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            ISO 9001 Auditing Practices Group Guidance on:ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            Identification of processesëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            如何识别过程ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            1. Distinguishing between the concepts of a process and an activityëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            概念上如何区别过程和活动ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            If an auditee cannot distinguish between the concepts of a process ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            and an activity, the auditor can briefly explain the differences by ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            using the guidance (clause 2.4) and definition ((3.4.1) in ISO 9000 ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            as background information. The auditor must be able to adapt to the ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            auditee’s situation. It is the auditor’s responsibility to ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            understand the auditee’s systems and approach.ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            如何审核员不能从概念上区别过程和活动的话，那么，就利用本指南文件第2.4条和ISO ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            9000定义3.4.1条作为基础信息来作简要的说明。审核员必须能接纳被审核方的情况。理解被审核方的各个系统和模式是审核员的责任。ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            During the audit, the auditor should determine whether there is a ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            problem of difference of terminology only, or whether there is a ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            lack of real implementation of the process approach by the auditee. ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            There may be a need to issue an NCR if the auditee is not fully ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            implementing the requirements stated in ISO 9001, Clause 4.1. If ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            this is simply a terminology problem, there should be no need to ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            issue an NCR, if all the requirements of in Clause 4.1 are ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
satisfied.ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            在开展审核的时候，审核员应当判定是否仅仅是术语方面的问题呢，还是审核方真的没有贯彻过程模式来管理。如果被审核方的确完全没有贯彻标准第4.1条要求的话，也许有必要开出不符合报告。如果体系是满足标准第4.1条要求的，仅仅是术语叫法上的问题，也就没有必要开不符合报告了。ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            The auditee has the right to use its own terminology, provided the ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            requirements of the standard are met. The auditor should mentally ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            develop a cross-reference list to ensure consistency and better ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            understanding.ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            只要满足标准各项要求，审核方有权使用他们自己的术语。审核员应当在脑子里建立起一份术语交叉清单来确保更好理解他们的术语和确保一致性。ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            2. A process has defined objective(s), input(s), output(s), ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            activities, and  resourcesëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            过程应当已经定义好目标、输入、输出、活动和资源ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            If the auditee does not understand that a process must have defined ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            (but not necessarily measurable) objective(s), input(s), output(s), ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            activities, and resources, the auditor should try reformulating the ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            questions to the auditee avoiding the use of 139M jargon, e.g. Can you ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            explain to me your operations here? What are the basic jobs carried ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            out in your department? What information do you need to start your ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            work? Where does it come from? Who receives the result of your work? ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            How do you know if you’ve done your job correctly? etc..ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            假如被审核方不理解，过程必须定义目标（但是不必要可测量的）、输入、输出、活动和资源，审核员应当避免直接采用质量管理体系术语来向被审核方提问，改用他们熟悉的方式提问。譬如，您能否说明一下您门部门在这里如何运作的？您们部门的基本工作任务是什么？您们必须接到什么信息后开始您们的工作的？这些信息来自什么地方？是谁接受您们工作的结果的？您们如何知道您们做的工作是正确的？等等……ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            This should help the auditor to establish whether the processes (as ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            per ISO 9001) are already defined, have clear inputs, outputs, ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            objectives and so on.ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            通过这样提问应当能帮助审核员理解这些过程是否已经按照ISO9001标准建立了，已经清楚定义了， 有清楚的目标、输入、输出等等。ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            3. Processes should be analysed, monitored and/or measured, and ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
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            各种过程应当加以分析、监视和/或测量以及改进（译者注：这是标准8.2.3条要求。注意是各种过程，不仅仅产品实现过程）ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            If after applying the audit techniques outlined above, there is an ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            absence of any records or other proof to demonstrate that the ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            processes are analysed, and/or monitored, and/or measured, and/or ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            improved, there would appear to be non-conformity with part of ISO ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            9001 Clause 4.1.ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
            假如采用前面所讲的审核技术，如果发现没有任何记录或者其他可以证明这些过程得到分析和/或监视，和/或测量，和/或得到改进的话，那么有可能是不符合标准第4.1条要求了。ëþYën$]†Vûbbs.517hb.com…~œ"¡Ì•z
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